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	<title>Comments on: Further Information about the &#8220;Tali&#8221; Boat</title>
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		<title>By: Boats</title>
		<link>http://www.israelpolitik.org/2009/02/05/further-information-about-the-tali-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-86878</link>
		<dc:creator>Boats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Article, although our oppinions differ a little you make a good argument.</description>
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		<title>By: Roddy Frankel</title>
		<link>http://www.israelpolitik.org/2009/02/05/further-information-about-the-tali-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-81563</link>
		<dc:creator>Roddy Frankel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 06:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another response to Peter Lorenzo:
Proportionality? How are 7,000 rockets fired into southern Israeli towns proportional to the (non-existent) threat these towns pose to Gaza?

Banned weapons? You&#039;ll have to come up with some real evidence before I ever believe your claims.

Do you really need a link to the Fourth Geneva Convention? Try Google.

&quot;The issue relating to the illegal construction of settlements...&quot;  You obviously haven&#039;t read the document. I&#039;m starting to think you&#039;re just too lazy. Don&#039;t sprain your mouse finger, here it is for you:
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/92.htm
In Article 49, it says:
&quot;The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.&quot;
Israel did not deport or transfer anyone. The Jewish towns of the West Bank were developed voluntarily. No coercion was used. As for the text of the Convention, it referred to the deportation of German Jews into the Nazi occupied territories which housed the death camps. Quite a different set of circumstances, you will have to admit.

&quot;Yes Israeli citizens have been hurt in rocket attacks and I do not seek to defend them.&quot;  It is painfully obvious that you could care less about the safety of Israelis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another response to Peter Lorenzo:<br />
Proportionality? How are 7,000 rockets fired into southern Israeli towns proportional to the (non-existent) threat these towns pose to Gaza?</p>
<p>Banned weapons? You&#8217;ll have to come up with some real evidence before I ever believe your claims.</p>
<p>Do you really need a link to the Fourth Geneva Convention? Try Google.</p>
<p>&#8220;The issue relating to the illegal construction of settlements&#8230;&#8221;  You obviously haven&#8217;t read the document. I&#8217;m starting to think you&#8217;re just too lazy. Don&#8217;t sprain your mouse finger, here it is for you:<br />
<a href="http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/92.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/92.htm</a><br />
In Article 49, it says:<br />
&#8220;The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.&#8221;<br />
Israel did not deport or transfer anyone. The Jewish towns of the West Bank were developed voluntarily. No coercion was used. As for the text of the Convention, it referred to the deportation of German Jews into the Nazi occupied territories which housed the death camps. Quite a different set of circumstances, you will have to admit.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes Israeli citizens have been hurt in rocket attacks and I do not seek to defend them.&#8221;  It is painfully obvious that you could care less about the safety of Israelis.</p>
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		<title>By: peter lorenzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter lorenzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question was of course rhetorical but always good to see the Geneva convention used as a reference point. Perhaps in that case ou may also wish to reference the relevant parts on proportionality and use of banned weapons..amongst other useful resources.

Maybe a link to the flouted UN resolutions? The issue relating to the illegal construction of settlements under international law and so on...?

The so-called deception was also ironic I am presuming your response is not. Yes Israeli citizens have been hurt in rocket attacks and I do not seek to defend them. But come on talk about falsehood and deception, the strain and trauma of the rockets is one thing but there were very few injuries to Israeli citizens from the thousands of rockets fired.  The desire to make like-for-like argument is really futile when looking at the destruction of Gaza largely from an unchallenged and superior armed force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question was of course rhetorical but always good to see the Geneva convention used as a reference point. Perhaps in that case ou may also wish to reference the relevant parts on proportionality and use of banned weapons..amongst other useful resources.</p>
<p>Maybe a link to the flouted UN resolutions? The issue relating to the illegal construction of settlements under international law and so on&#8230;?</p>
<p>The so-called deception was also ironic I am presuming your response is not. Yes Israeli citizens have been hurt in rocket attacks and I do not seek to defend them. But come on talk about falsehood and deception, the strain and trauma of the rockets is one thing but there were very few injuries to Israeli citizens from the thousands of rockets fired.  The desire to make like-for-like argument is really futile when looking at the destruction of Gaza largely from an unchallenged and superior armed force.</p>
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		<title>By: Roddy Frankel</title>
		<link>http://www.israelpolitik.org/2009/02/05/further-information-about-the-tali-boat/comment-page-1/#comment-70658</link>
		<dc:creator>Roddy Frankel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to Peter Lorenzo:
1) &quot;is Gaza occupied by Israel?&quot;

According to the Fourth Geneva Convention, an occupation requires A) the presence of a national military force in the territory of another country, and B) the military force must assume governmental functions within the territory.
Neither of these defining requirements match the situation in Gaza. Therefore, Gaza is definitely not occupied by Israel. 

2) &quot;why is Israel blockading Gaza&quot;?
The partial blockade of Gaza is a security measure, and has nothing to do with occupation. Gaza is an actively hostile territory, and Israel is under no obligation to open the border to Gaza. When the US imposed a naval blockade on Cuba, it did so well within its rights under international law, and it was certainly not occupying Cuba. The manner in which Mr. Lorenzo phrases his question is deceptive, by attempting to create a false hypocrisy where none exists. Israel&#039;s policy vis-a-vis Gaza is consistent in both legal terms, and in moral terms. Humanitarian aid does get through. Has Hamas shown any mercy toward the Israeli civilians hurt by their attacks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to Peter Lorenzo:<br />
1) &#8220;is Gaza occupied by Israel?&#8221;</p>
<p>According to the Fourth Geneva Convention, an occupation requires A) the presence of a national military force in the territory of another country, and B) the military force must assume governmental functions within the territory.<br />
Neither of these defining requirements match the situation in Gaza. Therefore, Gaza is definitely not occupied by Israel. </p>
<p>2) &#8220;why is Israel blockading Gaza&#8221;?<br />
The partial blockade of Gaza is a security measure, and has nothing to do with occupation. Gaza is an actively hostile territory, and Israel is under no obligation to open the border to Gaza. When the US imposed a naval blockade on Cuba, it did so well within its rights under international law, and it was certainly not occupying Cuba. The manner in which Mr. Lorenzo phrases his question is deceptive, by attempting to create a false hypocrisy where none exists. Israel&#8217;s policy vis-a-vis Gaza is consistent in both legal terms, and in moral terms. Humanitarian aid does get through. Has Hamas shown any mercy toward the Israeli civilians hurt by their attacks?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter Lorenzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Lorenzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: is Gaza occupied by Israel? If not then why is Israel blockading Gaza. Seriously you want your cake and eat it. Making out that under international law you can do one thing as you don&#039;t occupy Gaza then claiming another as it suits. Dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: is Gaza occupied by Israel? If not then why is Israel blockading Gaza. Seriously you want your cake and eat it. Making out that under international law you can do one thing as you don&#8217;t occupy Gaza then claiming another as it suits. Dumb.</p>
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